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It's not about me as this is a general discussion. They are not defined there any differently than the definitions above. That is certainly the correct analysis under a legal authoritarian moral framework. However that is not what was posited in my response. It appears that the suggested...

That post contains a fair amount of useful information (as is usual for your posts). I am going to change around the order a bit here to deal with some of the more concrete issues first. Do any owners follow the rules in literal entirety? I would find that surprising as there are so many. I...

For an aircraft like a Cardinal equipped with an O-360, how high an oil temp should one really worry about on climb out? Like see the mechanic. This tends to be an issue in the Valley of the Sun.

https://www.flyingmag.com/modern/spacex-polaris-dawn-crew-completes-historic-civilian-spacewalk/

I think there is another aspect of this which bears mentioning in terms specifically of why pilots and aircraft owners tend to follow the regulations. I suspect their primary motivation is that these rules and regulations often represent best safety practices and procedures, whether the FAA is...

Also would you have a citation or link to the 1961 law about detectors before boarding an aircraft. I have a copy of Public Law 87-197 Sept 5, 1961. It has a section (l) which outlaws carrying weapons on a aircraft unless you are law enforcement. I don't see anything requiring the detectors in...

Here you are - https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/cfr/cf/r1/97/30/33/-T/14/CI/P1/21/cfr1973033-T14CIP121/cfr1973033-T14CIP121.pdf . Neat site.

That is a bit of an over-generalization and borders on a straw man and a personal attack. I just don't think they are all proper or moral. Some laws and regulations are unjust and immoral. I honestly don't know many people who would deny that generally. That is one of the primary differences...

That loc site is pretty neat. I had not looked at that before. I searched for everything restricted to 'Code of Federal Regulations: 1971 Revision' and 'Code of Federal Regulations: Title 14: Aeronautics and Space' and available online. It seems the document titled 'Code of Federal Regulations...

Yes, it is my position that applying for a certificate action due to a regulatory violation is a use of indirect force. I think it quite clear that it is an indirect threat that violence will eventually be used against you if you don't cooperate. We have discussed this before and that is what...

An example from our nation's history may help illustrate these distinctions. For a long time slavery was legal in many states. Regardless of its moral status, enslaving a person and holding them in slavery involves at least an indirect use of force in the threat that they would be prosecuted...

I don’t see that at all. The actions of an ASI pursuing a regulatory violation action are an application of indirect force, thus also force. They are not direct force. The question of whether they are moral or not is a separate one which does not depend solely on that definition of the terms or...

Do either of those define the terms “force” or “criminalization” as appropriate to the context of this discussion? I had a quick look and didn’t see that. Is there anything wrong with the definitions above, which largely agree with dictionaries, and those sub-divisions? Please feel free to...

Thank you. Specifically I am looking for the regulation which was put in place in early 1973 which required metal detectors at airports for commercial flights. I understand it was passed into law explicitly in 1974, but believe it was first a regulation.

I certainly agree that an agreed upon lexicon is needed for a discussion to be meaningful. I also agree that terms can have specialized meanings depending on the context. For example, medicine is full of cases where a term means something slightly different from it's common usage. I will spend...

I was thinking that perhaps it is best to have some names for the two moral viewpoints we are discussing, rather than 'your' and 'my'. I think my viewpoint as expressed in post #15 can be fairly described as 'libertarian'. I would suggest that your viewpoint as expressed corrected in post #19...

I am trying to find the FARs from late 1972 - 1973. Is there a site that makes these available? I want to get 14 CFR 121.538 on aviation security. I have looked at the current eCFR but that only goes back to 2017.

“ Flight Plan Plea The VFR cross-country flight had gone well. Approaching the non-towered destination airport, air traffic control terminated flight following and the pilot changed frequencies. There was no response to local traffic announcements, which was not surprising considering the...

Perhaps it was unclear but I mean property to include any items of value which the individual owns, including financial instruments or even say the secret keys to a cryptocurrency (though it is a bit difficult for me to imagine how some aviation item would damage those). So here are a few items...

Largely I agree. I think there are a fair number of aviation items where we would likely agree, even coming from a different moral perspective. I will discuss some of those in the next post. But really the only way to make progress in the places where disagreement remains would be to discuss...