Air France: Can you say, basic pilot skills?

[mikea]

co-pilot says: "Climb, climb, climb." But his colleague answers: "But I've been pulling back on the stick for a while now."

In a computer-generated voice, the plane's warning system keeps repeating the word "Stall!"

The captain warns: "Watch out, you are pulling up." A co-pilot replies: "Am I pulling up?"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...wreckage-found,0,4369557.story?obref=obinsite

:mad2:

 

[Jim Logajan]

Would a majority of other crew have done better? Maybe, maybe not.

I don't understand why you would ask this, since reality appears to have asked and answered this question.

Why do you and everyone else who defends these pilots assume that this was the first time that the pitot tubes iced up in an Airbus and presented a flight crew with allegedly confusing signals?

One does not need to even be a pilot to judge the Air France crew if one is shown that similar scenarios yielded a safe outcome all other times.

 

[Jim Logajan]

I'd bet dollars to donuts you could take EVERY SINGLE Monday morning PP ASEL quarterback in this thread, put them in a sim of even a slightly complex aircraft and get you so twisted up, so quick, you'd have a completely different view on "stall recovery, it's not just for the regionals anymore.."

Donuts are another thread.
Haven't watched any football games for the last 15 years.
And don't care about irrelevant sim scenarios involving non-type-rated.

The question you have to answer in order to defend the Air France pilots better than you have (yours boils down to: hey, even a trained professional can make a mistake) is pointing out how and in what manner their pitot icing incident was different from those that had occurred earlier in Airbus incidents that didn't yield accidents.