Mike Blackburn
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Just when you thought it was safe to fly in the system again..
Air Wagner..... He’s baaaaackk.
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Just when you thought it was safe to fly in the system again..
Seems the original video for this thread is actually not public now. I missed all the excitement.
Really impressively bad instrument flying!
That Dec 13 video with the cancellation and steep banked curves in that marginal hole really made me shudder.
Agreed both a violation of regs from the timing and conditions and taking a large risk. And with a passenger in the plane.
Agreed both a violation of regs from the timing and conditions and taking a large risk. And with a passenger in the plane.
Which video was that? Would like to see it.denverpilot said:
So is there a repository or collection of the bad ones that have been captured?
As Nate points put, he has sort of hit a niche of illustrating really poor ADM at a level that has not killed him - yet!
He does not appear to be claiming copyright on them.
As Nate points put, he has sort of hit a niche of illustrating really poor ADM at a level that has not killed him - yet!
He does not appear to be claiming copyright on them.
Is impersonating a CFII some sort of violation ? :emoji6: I didn’t see anything horrifyingly dangerous. And at least he said his special talent was showing what not to do.
Possibly because @SixPapaCharlie is actually funny and has a much larger following?Bill said:
Would like to think so, but...midlifeflyer said:
he didn’t claim to be a CFI and I don’t think he signed any log books as CFI. So is that really being a CFI?
I agree. But enough to nail him? I am just trying to think of what FAR he would have violated.Tarheelpilot said:
No definition of “flight training” or “training” in Part 1. 61.1 defines that sort of circularly for this purpose as the training received from an authorized instructor.
Looks like 61.3 (d)(2) might apply. It lists the things that require an instructor certificate. But this lists training to qualify for solo flights and endorsements.
It didn’t seem like he was doing any of those things.
Not to defend Air Wagner.
Actually, I do have to agree with @LesGawlik on this specific point. By including the words "just in case you were confused" that does technically qualify as an attack on the speaker, because of the assertion about the speaker's state of mind. The main point could be rephrased to avoid that fallacy, such as "the standards of evidence are different for a criminal trial and an internet forum" or something like that.EdFred said:
In my experience, many of the figures of speech that one might use in casual conversation without causing offense, such as including "you think", can easily be interpreted as not being kind on internet forums. Probably often not much offense intended, but it can come across offensively.
As to Air Wagner, I tend to agree with those who think he consistently demonstrates substandard flying and does not appear to get the point or be amenable to feedback about it. Another poster above noted that he likely received too much attention early on for some of his unsafe antics. And that can then become the driver for further videos of the same questionable airmanship.
In terms of actual violations which the FAA might have spoken to him about. Was the dive at a 45 degree angle with the 3000 fpm descent through a hole in the clouds after cancelling IFR a failure to land properly out of an instrument approach using normal maneuvering? Or does the fact that he cancelled VFR get him off the hook there? Did he have proper clearance from the clouds to be cancelling and flying VFR there?
Yes, captured that one off of Vimeo for posterity. Are there copies of other Air Wagner videos around. Perhaps we can make a collection. I would like to get a copy of the 45 degree bank and 3000 fpm dive.midlifeflyer said:
I was able to find the bay bridge with daughter and friends one as well.
Would love to get the dropping out of the cloud one. Just found the flight into smoke one and downloaded.PaulS said:
Actually, I think the distribution of IQ scores for the general population is known rather well. It is close to a normal distribution and the mean, median, and mode are all close to 100.PaulS said:
I have links to 4 of the more notorious that were around a few days ago. As well as downloads. PM me if interested.Samuel Seidel said:
Nothing worth saving this one for I guess.
I don’t understand why with the very nice panel he has he has just a CO sticker rather than a real detector.
I don’t understand why with the very nice panel he has he has just a CO sticker rather than a real detector.
I suppose there could even be a posthumous video, given that if he crashes, there will no doubt be several cameras running. And with solid state memory cards, it seems like these can often be recovered.
What is the record for number of posts in a single PoA thread?
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