Bill to Simplify Certification Passes Congress

Geico266

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This bill will reduce the cost of certification for new Part 23 aircraft and allow existing planes to move into a "Non-Certified" category. In addition I think this bill will allow owners (like the current experimentals) work on the plane after taking a repairman's course and an A&P is all that is needed for the sign off. Also, you can put in non TSOed equipment into the panels.

http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/...-bill-to-reduce-cost-of-flying.aspx?CMP=ADV:1

Obama needs to sign it.
 
JeffDG said:
I see nothing in that bill that will permit this.

Seriously, it just tells the FAA to streamline adoption of safety regulations, and simplify Part 23. It does not require the FAA to permit "owner maintenance" or non-certified parts.
The bill states "The objectives described in this subsection are based on the recommendations of the Part 23 Reorganization Aviation Rulemaking Committee" and that committee's report can be found here:

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...a/Part.23.Reorganization.ARC.FINAL.Report.pdf

See, for example, under section 3.3.5. Since congress based its objectives on the recommendations of that committee, and the committee is named in the legislation, that document pretty much spells out how this should in theory all play out in terms of changes to the regulations.
 
Geico266 said:
If the cost is the same (and it is) Garmin is the strongest company. I would put Garmin in over the others in a heart beat. 3 of the 5 companies I mentioned won't be here in 10 years. There will be a lot of consolidation in the coming years.

Think resale.
Why would a purchaser of a commodity worry about the fate of a company past their purchase's warranty period? If Garmin had been so inexpensive all this time, how did all those companies like GRT, MGL, Dynon, etc. come to exist?

In commodity electronics it seems the major players have come and gone and switched positions over the years from countries around the world - Sony, Samsung, LG, GE, RCA, NEC, etc. So there is no reason to believe that Garmin will become dominate simply on brand alone, or that it will actually decide to stay in the market if the pricing stays low and goes lower. Witness Piper and Cessna in the LSA market - they should have dominated on brand name and competitive pricing alone and look what happened.
 
RotorAndWing said:
I don't think anyone "objects", but there is a lot of speculation going on and like stated, this is still a long way from being finalized.

Again, the final regulations aren't even written yet.
Draft language changes to 14 CFR Part 23 appears in Appendix E of the ARC's final report that was referenced by the congressional bill. This process has been ongoing since 2009, after all. Industry isn't going to object - any pushback will be from internal FAA old timers and CYA types. They'll have to fight Earl Lawrence and Anthony Foxx and congressional support. Good luck to them....
 
UPDATE:

The FAA says they expect to issue a final rule by November 2017.[1]
Almost four years from now.
The congressional bill said the final rule should be issued by December 15, 2015 - about two years after passage.[2]

The dragging of heels is occurring despite the likelyhood of an increase in FAA funding for the next two years.[3]

Oh well, it was a nice idea while it lasted.

[1] http://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=13672
[2] http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th/house-bill/1848/text
[3] http://www.hmmh.com/blog/?p=1358
 
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