Re: The Guy who is Ticked off at PofA

[Jay Honeck]

Since that thread was unceremoniously closed in the middle of my reply, I think we should start another one aimed at the OP. Maybe it will help?

The issue (I guess?) is whether PofA should remove threads when they are proven to be bogus. Although I agree with the guy in principle -- yes, I think they SHOULD be removed, if proven to be wrong -- it would be helpful to know what he was talking about. Did someone post some smack about his business here?

For example, I have had some success getting bogus "reviews" of our businesses removed from travel websites after we proved that they were written by guests whom we had thrown out for being drunk and disorderly. It's only been necessary twice in ten years, and it is a difficult, time-consuming, and often fruitless pursuit -- but I do it anyway because I'm a stubborn German. :lol:

Frankly, I've had better luck (and more fun) rebutting the fake reviews in the same forum. It's way more fun to make a drunk idiot look like, well, a drunk idiot in a very public forum.

Anyway, I'm sure it's a sensitive situation, so it may not be possible -- but it would be good to know more about what happened?

 

[Jim Logajan]

Alias- You cricitze those who are in control and they close the thread. I have tried for months, and I mean Months to get this resolved. And today, I have had enough. I am simply asking for the thread/post to be removed as it is without merit. For those of you who think I am Whinning, I ask if your lively hood (Your Job) depended on the truth and someone got on this board and attacked you without ever having to substantiate their claims. Would you yourself also be upset after you have tried repeatley to get some one in management to look into the situation? I mean I have emailed, PM, tried to call, (can't find a number anywhere to call) to no avail. When I did PM someone, they come back and tell me honestly I would give up if I we're you. Management isn't going to do anything about it. So, My reputation and intergity gets flushed down the drain, because any nitwit with a keyboard can type what ever they want.

Good luck with your attempts to get satisfaction. From a couple past experiences with PoA management I do not disbelieve your tale. My experiences:

(1) I have had two posts removed by the moderators of PoA. The only content of those two posts was the text of the post I was responding to, the text of one of the rules of conduct that I thought the original post was violating, and a winking smiley emoticon. Nothing more. I thought the smiley would show there was no strong feeling involved.

Private discussion with one of the moderators indicated I had allegedly run afoul of an unwritten rule and the following catch all was being applied: "Pilots of America shall have the right and sole discretion to [...] remove any content whatsoever [...] which it finds in its sole discretion to be otherwise objectionable for any reason."

(2) I had written a review of the book China's Wings here in March 2012: http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47793
It seems the author became aware of my review and posted a reply to my thread. However, it wasn't until October 2012 that his post, which got hung up for moderator review, was actually approved. If it had been more prompt I'd have responded to the author's post.

Volunteer moderators are to be commended and sympathized (been there, done that) - but only if they actually put in the effort to moderate - and then do it properly, equitably, and humbly.

Unless you do something a moderator takes personally, it would seem the application of the rules are not consistently applied.

 

[Jim Logajan]

Argh! If you're not going to be specific, no one can help you.

If the OP is correct and the moderators have already stated they have no intention of removing the post or thread that the OP was concerned about, wouldn't it be counterproductive to his entire intent to point out the very post he wants removed from public visibility?