"Traffic 12:00 5 miles type and altitude unknown "

eMKay

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Happened to me today, and is the reason I ALWAYS get flight following, even if I don't have to, I do. Because I had someone looking out for me, and the guy headed straight for me didn't.

I never saw him BTW.
 
Geico266 said:
"No Joy" is the only other phrase I use if I cannot see the traffic. The less syllables the better. ;)
Grampa, tell us again about the time you shot down two ME-262s with your Spitfire!
 
Geico266 said:
That would be a "Tally ho". I think. 🤣

"No joy" means I don't see the traffic or boggies.
http://flighttraining.aopa.org/magazine/2007/July/200707_Features_Talk_Radio.html
"Two other terms that shouldn't be in your vocabulary are no joy and tally ho. More tactical than practical, these are military terms that, when translated into the Pilot/Controller Glossary, become negative contact and traffic in sight, respectively. Although they are widely understood thanks to popular culture, they're not in the Pilot/Controller Glossary, and their use is not recommended."
 
Geico266 said:
Read the last sentence again. In communicating to ATC the point is to be understood in clear and concise term. Both terms meat that goal.

Not recommended by AOPA? 🤣 Trust me, anything coming from AOPA is worthess, and certainly a poor source for trying to make a point.
"Don't use phrases such as "tally-ho" or "no joy." It's not the Battle of Britain and you're probably not a Spitfire pilot."
"[FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]USAF Major David M. Sampson is an aircraft owner and 1,100-hour pilot with commercial and instrument ratings. He has served for ten years as an Air Force air traffic control officer, holds a B.S. in Safety from the University of Southern California, and is nearing completion of his Master of Aeronautical Science degree from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University."[/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva][/FONT]http://www.avweb.com/news/avtraining/183268-1.html
 
TangoWhiskey said:
I don't know about anybody else, but I find that, generally, it's hard for me to see other GA traffic during the daytime until they are within 2 miles, even if I know where to look for them. If the G1000 TIS or ATC calls out traffic 5 miles away, or 3 miles away, if it's your typical sized GA plane (Piper, Cessna, Mooney, Beech, etc.), it's hard to spot them any further out than that.
According to my Zaon MRX manual, most GA aircraft are too small to see beyond about 2 miles. My own experience seems to confirm that.
 
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